|
|
July 17, 2023: Raw Story: Trump teasing authoritarianism admits his own defeat: MSNBC host
Speaking about it on Monday, MSNBC host Joy Ann Reid and historian Michael Beschloss compared the ideology to Hungary's Viktor Orban, which the far-right has promoted over the years.
"It strikes me that it is an admission of defeat in terms of the culture. In terms of them admitting that the outcomes they want and that his fans want, the reason they love Trump, is he's promising to bypass democracy to implement the things they want that a vast majority of Americans don't want," remarked Reid. "It's Nixon but much, much, much worse."
Beschloss agreed, it's also an example of Trump gaming the system.
"They're not talking about doing things that are illegal, interestingly enough," he explained, drawing parallels to Germany in 1933. "I'm not comparing Donald Trump to Hitler, but in terms of the system. Hitler basically used the existing system in Germany in 1933 so that the will of an angry minority is translated into power and dictatorship. Exactly the same thing happening here."
He said that if a poll was asked about things like "democracy," Americans would support it overwhelmingly. Things like a free press, abortion rights, and personal freedoms are all supported by 65-70 percent of Americans.
"But what the Trump people are doing is they're taking advantage of a weakness in our system that goes all the way back to 1787, which says if you manipulate it, if you appoint certain people to the Supreme Court, which is owned one-third by Donald Trump, and people who like him, Congress may be dominated by Republicans 16 months from now. If all of that happens, the will of an angry 30 percent minority, who may be a little more than that, can be made to rule all of us, and Donald Trump will be made into our dictator."
Reid warned there will be nothing that can ever remove or stop him.
"That would be the last free election," Beschloss warned.
Speaking about it on Monday, MSNBC host Joy Ann Reid and historian Michael Beschloss compared the ideology to Hungary's Viktor Orban, which the far-right has promoted over the years.
"It strikes me that it is an admission of defeat in terms of the culture. In terms of them admitting that the outcomes they want and that his fans want, the reason they love Trump, is he's promising to bypass democracy to implement the things they want that a vast majority of Americans don't want," remarked Reid. "It's Nixon but much, much, much worse."
Beschloss agreed, it's also an example of Trump gaming the system.
"They're not talking about doing things that are illegal, interestingly enough," he explained, drawing parallels to Germany in 1933. "I'm not comparing Donald Trump to Hitler, but in terms of the system. Hitler basically used the existing system in Germany in 1933 so that the will of an angry minority is translated into power and dictatorship. Exactly the same thing happening here."
He said that if a poll was asked about things like "democracy," Americans would support it overwhelmingly. Things like a free press, abortion rights, and personal freedoms are all supported by 65-70 percent of Americans.
"But what the Trump people are doing is they're taking advantage of a weakness in our system that goes all the way back to 1787, which says if you manipulate it, if you appoint certain people to the Supreme Court, which is owned one-third by Donald Trump, and people who like him, Congress may be dominated by Republicans 16 months from now. If all of that happens, the will of an angry 30 percent minority, who may be a little more than that, can be made to rule all of us, and Donald Trump will be made into our dictator."
Reid warned there will be nothing that can ever remove or stop him.
"That would be the last free election," Beschloss warned.
Editor, the Advocate:
If you are amazed and/or concerned about the amount of time it has taken to bring Trump to justice, read some world history.
It took many years and a world war to bring Adolf Hitler to account after he led the attack on Germany’s democracy.
Hitler and Trump’s rise to power are similar, except for one major detail. Whereas Hitler’s stormtroopers overthrew Germany’s democracy, Trump’s MAGA ReTrumplicans had the capitol police mostly outnumbered and they only managed to break glass, beat up some police and, I think they defecated on Nancy Pelosi’s desk (I heard her say ‘poo-poo’ on TV and she sounded very upset).
Trump was still in charge on Jan. 6. If he had led his Proud Boys into the Capitol like he promised instead of cowardly watching the raid on TV, we may have our first U.S. dictatorship.
Trump often praises Putin and other autocrats in the world. Wouldn’t it be a strange turn of events if Russia overthrows their dictator Putin and in America Trump is elected president and becomes dictator?
Go figure!
-Letter to the Editor in Victoria Advocate - July 11, 2023
If you are amazed and/or concerned about the amount of time it has taken to bring Trump to justice, read some world history.
It took many years and a world war to bring Adolf Hitler to account after he led the attack on Germany’s democracy.
Hitler and Trump’s rise to power are similar, except for one major detail. Whereas Hitler’s stormtroopers overthrew Germany’s democracy, Trump’s MAGA ReTrumplicans had the capitol police mostly outnumbered and they only managed to break glass, beat up some police and, I think they defecated on Nancy Pelosi’s desk (I heard her say ‘poo-poo’ on TV and she sounded very upset).
Trump was still in charge on Jan. 6. If he had led his Proud Boys into the Capitol like he promised instead of cowardly watching the raid on TV, we may have our first U.S. dictatorship.
Trump often praises Putin and other autocrats in the world. Wouldn’t it be a strange turn of events if Russia overthrows their dictator Putin and in America Trump is elected president and becomes dictator?
Go figure!
-Letter to the Editor in Victoria Advocate - July 11, 2023
Aug 8, 2022: NBC News: Trump once complained that his generals weren't like Hitler's, book says
Former President Donald Trump once complained to his White House chief of staff that his generals weren't "totally loyal" like Adolf Hitler’s during World War II, according to a book excerpt published Monday.
“You f---ing generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?” Trump asked then-White House chief of staff John Kelly, according to an excerpt of “The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021,” co-written by New Yorker staff writer Susan Glasser and New York Times correspondent Peter Baker.
When Kelly asked Trump for clarification, the president reportedly replied by specifying, “The German generals in World War II."
Kelly, a retired Marine general, then asked Trump whether he knew that those generals "tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off."
According to the excerpt, Trump dismissed Kelly's historically accurate description, insisting, "No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him."
Kelly, in an interview with NBC News on Tuesday, confirmed the accuracy of the account in the book excerpt. He said he would tell Trump that the American generals’ first loyalty is to the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law.
Kelly described Trump’s “unwillingness to accept that the American generals should not be loyal to him as the German generals were to the leader of Germany. And, again, I very definitely pointed out that they tried to kill him [Hitler] a number of times.”
The New Yorker published the excerpt Monday.
Former President Donald Trump once complained to his White House chief of staff that his generals weren't "totally loyal" like Adolf Hitler’s during World War II, according to a book excerpt published Monday.
“You f---ing generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?” Trump asked then-White House chief of staff John Kelly, according to an excerpt of “The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021,” co-written by New Yorker staff writer Susan Glasser and New York Times correspondent Peter Baker.
When Kelly asked Trump for clarification, the president reportedly replied by specifying, “The German generals in World War II."
Kelly, a retired Marine general, then asked Trump whether he knew that those generals "tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off."
According to the excerpt, Trump dismissed Kelly's historically accurate description, insisting, "No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him."
Kelly, in an interview with NBC News on Tuesday, confirmed the accuracy of the account in the book excerpt. He said he would tell Trump that the American generals’ first loyalty is to the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law.
Kelly described Trump’s “unwillingness to accept that the American generals should not be loyal to him as the German generals were to the leader of Germany. And, again, I very definitely pointed out that they tried to kill him [Hitler] a number of times.”
The New Yorker published the excerpt Monday.